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Robin Daly
Hello and welcome to the Yes to Life show . I’m Robin Daly, your host for the show. I’m also the founder of the UK charity Yes to Life that has almost two decades of advocating for integrative cancer care under its belt. My guest today is Tracie Storey, someone I wasn’t aware of until she contributed a great practical workshop to our recent annual conference in London. She offers a very interesting mix of sound and movement under the banner of elemental resonance that people are clearly finding very helpful. Tracie, thanks so much for coming on the Yes to Life show today.

Tracie Storey
Hi Robin, it’s been an absolute pleasure to be here. Thank you for inviting me.

Robin Daly
Well I was delighted to meet you at our annual conference just recently, Kirsten Chick who helped me to develop the programme for the conference made me aware of you and your work and your workshop was a star attraction I have to say. So you seem to be someone who is very much kind of ploughing your own furrow on a journey of discovery as to what works for people. The banner under which you work is elemental resonance and you talk of being on a journey to a higher vibrational being. Perhaps you start out by unpacking that explaining what you do.

Tracie Storey
Thank you very much. I was really, really pleased to join your conference in London and meet some of the lovely people who came along. So it was great to actually do some physical work, physical movement with the people that attended. And I think that’s one of the keys to what I’m talking about with higher vibrational being, because it is like, what does that actually mean? And I’d like to just break it down to, because a lot of words are bandied around it needs days. And I think sometimes it’s not really clear. And sometimes words are used, you know, in context and out of context. But what I actually mean by that is breaking it down to a cellular level. So that means working and doing things, whether it’s through the practice of meditation or the practice of movement, and the movement that I use is qigong. So through the movement of qigong, which is a movement meditation, so qi stands for energy, and gong stands for mastering. So this is about mastering your energy. Through the practice of qigong, we start to move the body and we move the energy. And then if we bring in the element of sound into that, where we use sound in the movement as well. And I like to call this toning, because it’s not stinging per se, it’s just making sounds with your voice. And these are sounds that are quite simple for everybody to use, it’s nothing complicated. But when we use the sound and the movement together, we’re actually shifting our energy levels. And this is where this expression, higher vibrational being comes in. Because what we’re doing is taking responsibility for the way we move the body. With tried and tested techniques, qigong is a very ancient practice. I think most people have heard of tai chi. So people, if you say tai chi, and people go, Oh, yes, I’ve seen that done in the park, where qigong is like the grandmother of tai chi, a little bit older. But like tai chi, there’s a lot of different sequences and a lot of different styles of it. So when it comes to answering your question, that’s what I would say, it’s taking responsibility for moving your body in a certain way, using meditation and using sound. And when we can work with those together, then we get this shift from the beginning of the session to the end, where you go, Oh, I actually feel a bit better. I feel more spacious in my body. I feel a little bit less stressed, or I feel a little bit less tired, or something I just feel better, maybe you can’t put your finger on it. And that is the higher vibration. It’s basically going from where you were before, to a place afterwards. Does that make sense?

Robin Daly
Yeah, it does. So this synthesis, if you like, of sound and qigong, I’ve taken, that’s your own particular recipe, is that right?

Tracie Storey
Well, actually, no, I studied with a teacher called Fabien Mamont. He’s a French musician, and this is how he started out his life being this amazing, accomplished musician. Then he learned acupuncture and then he created this form called Tamado, which is sound and movement. And he is the one who is a purveyor of this work, basically, I’m one of the students. So, so yes, I’m not taking the credit, but I am somebody who has benefited from this work myself and learning it for my own purposes and then teaching, becoming a teacher and continuing with working in with sound because sound is my background. It’s the reason why I do the work that I do. But also you have to have your own experience of it in order to really believe that it works, you know? And for me, I tried it and I was like, Oh, this is, this is really, this is fantastic. You know, it’s, it allowed me to make quite a bit of transformation quite quickly and make shifts in my life.

Robin Daly
Well, I almost never come across somebody who is working in any of the fields of integrative medicine. It doesn’t come from some personal experience, in fact, that’s the way it goes. People try something, find it, works, and think, blooming heck, everybody needs to know about this. And so, yeah, that’s how it happens, which of course is the best motivation. Exactly. Okay, so you mentioned the music background, and I hear that you were a DJ at one time, so a rather different kind of musical background. Do you want to tell us about that chapter of your life and how it led into elemental resonance?

Tracie Storey
Yeah, that’s a great question. And actually, that ties in nicely to how I know Kirsten, Kirsten, who you mentioned at the beginning. So I would say sound and music is the common thread through everything that I do in my life. It’s definitely been my driving force, if you like. Music always goes to me. And in some ways, music with my family, no matter what was going on in my life, I always had music there, I could always rely on it. So it became something that was integral in my life. And when I was a little girl, I would listen to the radio and make little mix tapes. So I’d listen and hold my little tape recorder up, because that’s all we had then, to the secret with record and play. And then I’d press pause and I’d wait till the radio DJ played the next track. And I’d make these little mix tapes, unbeknownst to me that this is what I was going to be doing for a living if I got older. So I thought, yeah, I was one of the first female DJs, I suppose. I was definitely in amongst the boys in that world. But because I was so passionate about it, and because for me, it was a very obvious journey for me to go on. And very natural for me to become a DJ, I started traveling around the world and playing different festivals. And there was one moment, and I remember it in Jakarta, and I was playing in front of quite a lot of people on the beach, I’d say quite a few thousand. And I was like, this is really, really, really incredible, how everybody is drawn to sound and drawn to vibration. And it made me think, what if people were deaf? What if you couldn’t hear the music? Would you still feel the vibration? And obviously, most of us would have had to guess, yes, of course you would, because you don’t just hear sound or vibration through your ears, we do hear it through our ears, but we feel the vibration in our body. And for me, that was a huge turning point. I was like, I need to know more about this, I need to know how sound affects us at vibrational level, and why it’s so important, and what is actually going on in the body. So this is when I started to speak out, mentors and teachers. And in 2011, I started to study bio-resonance, which is the resonance of the body, working off of the body in the field around the body, if you believe in that, and people do, and people don’t, or also the physical body, though the field within the body, the vibrational field within the body. And this is where I learned about traditional Chinese medicine, TCM, where I learned about qigong, and it all started to fall into place down there. And elemental resonance was born out of that studying, was born out of getting those qualifications and becoming a vibrational sound practitioner and qigong instructor. And I birthed elemental resonance in 2014. And so I’ve been teaching and working in this world of sound and resonance and working with the body since 2011, but officially since 2014. And elemental resonance is called that because we’re working with the elements. We’re working with the fire of the body, the water of the body, the air of the body, the wood of the body with the different organs that are elemental, and then of course resonances.

Robin Daly
All right, well I’d like to dig into that a little bit more later on, but okay, so you mentioned that it’s your personal experience of this technique, what it did for you personally, do you mind my asking in what way?

Tracie Storey
Yeah, of course. I mean, as you probably know, DJing is a glamorous job, but actually is very exhausting.

Robin Daly
I bet.

Tracie Storey
It’s a lot of traveling. It’s a lot of short sleeps or, you know, intermittently jet lag. And actually it kind of takes a toll on your mental health. So you spend a lot of time on your own and then suddenly you’re with lots of people and you have to keep this kind of persona up, you know, of like professional performance. So I was tired a lot and I was definitely, let’s say a bit stressed and a bit anxious. But also I’ve done a lot of talking therapy in my life. And I mean, that was a big turning point to me. You know, you kind of talk about your issues in life, you know, your insecurities, mental health problems. And I just think, oh, I’m just talking about this talking. And I felt like I would go around in circles. And what I found when I discovered vibrational sound therapy, I was like, oh, here we go. This is what I’ve been waiting for. Because what I realized was no matter how much talking I did, the energy was still around in my body and around my body. And I wasn’t moving it. So let’s take it into kind of a more physical realm. Yes, I was talking about my issue, but I wasn’t moving anything energetically or physically. So when sound came in, and I can remember the experience really well, we were in Switzerland, and we needed to lie down on this massage table with lots of different, let’s call them chimes, chimes with different notes. And it was like I knew, I was really reluctant to go on the table because I knew that as soon as they started touching the chimes with experience, by the way, it wasn’t touching any of them, the teacher knew which ones to touch and how light or how soft to do them. I knew that something was going to shift for me. And I was the last one on the table, because I knew I had to do it. I was ready to do, but I was scared. And of course, as soon as I got on the table and everyone in, we were studying, so it was part of our training and everyone’s around. So I had my colleagues with me at the time. And I just, you know, broke down in tears. It was just, it was like that, the thing I needed to hit that spot that I’d been holding on to, it’s so tight. And it was time for that to move. I was ready for, I wanted to, but of course, I was scared. So it was a huge relief. It’s like, it’s like having a dam in the river, you know, and suddenly, that’s released, and then this water can come through. So there was a lot of tears, there was a lot of things coming up for me. And I processed quite a lot during that time. And I knew that it was a big shift, big transformation for me that I’d been waiting for. And nothing I’d done up to that point in the talking therapy had had that much of an effect.

Robin Daly
Mm-hmm interesting So always is for courses thing, isn’t it? Yeah talking will work for some people but definitely not for others. So Yeah, very interesting

Tracie Storey
I think the talking was important for the lead up to that point. I’m not saying it didn’t play a part, absolutely played a part, but I also needed something else. And I didn’t know what it was, but like you say, horses, of course, is for me, the sound was the key that Schiff did, what I’ve been holding on to.

Robin Daly
Well it makes sense when you talk about your relationships, music and sound anyway that you had from the start, it kind of completely makes sense, that would hold the key. Yeah, okay, so on your website you speak about people becoming creators within their own destiny. Do you want to say a little bit about what you exactly mean by that?

Tracie Storey
Mmm, yeah, that’s basically me referencing an alchemical process and being an alchemist within yourself. So again, this is about taking responsibility for yourself again and knowing that you have the ability within you to create, to be a creator for yourself, not for anyone else, not for your neighbor or your loved one. We can facilitate that, but really we can only be responsible for ourselves. So I really believe when we find the right tools, because everybody has something that resonates with them more. Some people love yoga, some people like pilates, doesn’t really matter which one, it’s just which one resonates with you. So when we find that thing, then we can start to really step into these shoes of being our own creator. And I think it’s scary as well, because we don’t think we can, sometimes we feel a little bit like helpless or nothing’s working for me, or oh, it might work for them, but it doesn’t work for me. And I want to tell everybody, it does, we all have this ability to be this creator within our own lives. And we just need to start with little baby steps. You know, there’s that expression of doing something for 30 days to create a change, you know, whether that’s something to do with your diet or to stop smoking, whatever it is, but even to do meditation, do something for 30 days. And I’m a big believer in doing nothing, even though you might not believe it’s going to happen. And suddenly you’ll see a little shift in your life. And it’s not about the big wham-bang, like huge, you know, let’s get the orchestra out. I really believe in the little shifts. And then you go, Oh, I did that, you know, I made that happen. And then it gives you this feeling of, Oh, you have a little boost to it in yourself. And that’s the feeling of being the creator. That’s the feeling of being the alchemy. I can play a part in this shift in my life. And then we start to feel a bit more empowered. And I think it’s really important for us all to feel that in our lives. You know, there are things out of our control, the things we see on the TV, and there’s so many things out of our control. But what we can control or be part of is this creation within our own everyday life, the little baby stuff. Does that make sense?

Robin Daly
It does, and I’m guessing that your part in that, I can think of two ways in which you would play a part in that, one is obviously inspiring people at such things as possible in the first place, because they might not think so, and secondly, reflecting back when the steps, a step is made of showing them what they’ve achieved, because often we have such a poor perspective on our own progress, and think we are not examined at all. Is that a tool to act here?

Tracie Storey
Yeah, absolutely. And I really like the way you said the word inspiration there, because I do, I think it’s really important to inspire people to believe that they could do something. And even if you are restricted in any way, you know, you’re ill in bed or you’re combined to a wheelchair and you haven’t got the ability to move, again, there’s always something we can do. There’s always something. So it’s this feeling of hope, always having hope that you can do something no matter what stage you’re at. And I think that’s really, really important. So yes, inspiring people that there’s always something we can do. And then, like you say, mirroring back when progress is being made. And I think this is the thing, vibrational sound therapy is a physical experience, but it’s also building yourself up to knowing that your body is an instrument. I mean, that’s something that I really, and this is something I said at the beginning of the workshop at the Yes to Life conference, your body is an instrument. And just like you have a musical instrument like a guitar, that you would tune before you play with your friends, before you jam with your friends, or before you go on stage, your body is also an instrument that you can tune in certain ways. So this is what people start to kind of really understand. Oh yeah, I am an instrument. I can do things within my everyday life. And through nutrition, through meditation, through who you spend time with, all of these things have an effect. And I think this is once people start to go down those roads and realize that they have opportunities available to them to help themselves, then it just starts to open up so many more doors. Because then you start to move in resonance, more in resonance with yourself, and move towards what feels harmonious, and a way from what feels dissonant, which is the opposite of harmony.

Robin Daly
how interesting you just kind of used musical language to explain something which, you know, is a message of ours to do with integrated medicine, basically, so they can inspire people to become the directors of their own recovery, their own bringing themselves back to health or tuning themselves up again. And, and in just the same way, it’s the source of hope as well as soon as somebody feels that they can manage a step on their own, that it genuinely gives them a result, they actually receive the benefit of taking a step, they develop their intuition, you know, in that, which you would maybe describe in terms of musicality, you know, they’re being in touch with their own tuning, if you like, and, and they start to move forward. And the more it happens, the more it happens.

Tracie Storey
Yeah, because like, they’re moving towards, it’s like using your inner compass to guide you like, oh, these persons are something that makes sense. That feels good. Eating that feels good, and not that. And then you just start, like you say, it has like a snowball effect.

Robin Daly
absolutely right now can we talk a bit more about Qigong yeah so yeah what drew you to this practice I mean you said you came across at the time when you were beginning to look outside the box if you like and just see humans as responding to music as musical instruments and it’s a very different culture about from our own it’s come from was there something in particular that drew you to that or was it just that it particularly fitted what you’re looking for

Tracie Storey
Well, yes, a great question. And, you know, the funny thing about this question is when I started studying vibrational sound therapy, this is the thing that we had to do in the morning. Right. And I was like, well, I’m not really bothered about being Qigong. I’m here to do sound. We’re here to do sound. That’s all I’m interested in. And it was compulsory. We had to do it. And not only was it compulsory, our teacher wouldn’t speak to us in the morning until we’d done Qigong. And I was like, oh, OK. And it was we would meet every morning at 7 a.m. in silence and no talking allowed. And the reason was was because he knew our energy was going to shift from the beginning of the session to the end of the session. And he knew our energy was going to be better, brighter, more spacious, you know, all positive things. There was never anything negative about doing Qigong. And he didn’t want to speak to us before. Then he didn’t want to know about whatever was in our minds at that point. But after Qigong, then we could speak. And I didn’t understand it to begin with. And then, of course, I was like, ah, it makes sense, you know. And when I when I did Qigong in my retreat, at the beginning of again, it’s compulsory for me to make sure everyone’s there to do Qigong. And in the beginning, I’m having to talk a lot. This is what we’re doing. Focus on this. Breathe here. This hand, you know, all the different instructions. But my goal is to get to a point where I’m a lot more quiet in the session. And the reason is then is because people are really listening and feeling their own energy and not they’re they’re watching me with the movement. But they because they’ve heard it for a few days, what’s going on? They don’t need to hear my voice so much. And then this is my idea as we practice in silence. And they can really feel the strength of their own vital energy within their own body. And then they are like, again, this is the lightbulb moment about being the creator, being the alchemist in your own life to know that that vital life force belongs in all of us, and it’s just about uncovering it like polishing off a jewel that’s been covered in dust for a little bit. You know, it’s like everyone has that vital life force. Some people have a little bit more in tune with it than others, but everybody has it. so Qigong is a way of dusting that off and getting in touch with it again. And for me, you know, I’ve been practicing it now. So since 2011, so what’s that 12 years? I’m definitely going to be doing it till it’s my time not to be here. And I know that it really is very, very effective. And the Meridian warm up, we did a little bit of that at the Yesterlife conference, is very, very effective. And even if you have 10 minutes, then this is the video I sent out to some of the people that came onto the conference, even if you’ve got 10 minutes, you can do something in 10 minutes, you know.

Robin Daly
Yeah. Well, you know, Qigong is long been credited with being a brilliant support for people with cancer, particularly. Do you want to say why you think that is?

Tracie Storey
Yeah and it’s interesting actually because there’s one form of qigong called zineng qigong which not many people kind of practice and I know that there is a centre in Hawaii actually, a centre for patients that practice zineng qigong and I don’t know there’s probably other people around the world but I know this particular centre in Hawaii is that people go to to learn zineng qigong. I believe it’s because you are moving the energy from the inside out and you are you’re activated within that process interacting with it, it’s not being done to you and I feel that with I mean cancer is you know really depends where it is in the different parts of the body but in this particular form of qigong you can focus in on certain organs within the body so for example the exercise we were doing at the yesterlife conference which is about the lungs if you had lung cancer I mean this is an exercise you can do that specifically works on the lung and it’s activating the lung meridian and then it’s activating the sound that goes with the lung so you’re exercising and you’re able to work if you choose on a daily basis at home to do a practice working specifically on that organ so I think qigong has that important that you can choose which organs you’re working on and there’s different movements for the heart there’s different movements for the bladder and the kidneys and I think it’s really important to identify which organs you’re dealing with in the body though the people who have got cancer insert an organ wouldn’t it be nice to know that there is an exercise you can do that is specifically targeted for that organ

Robin Daly
I ain’t firing, yeah.

Tracie Storey
Yeah and also not just the physical aspect but the emotional aspect. So to give you an example the lungs work with the emotions of grief and sadness and the antidote to that is to work on courage. So we want to work on the emotional courage and try to release them of the grief and sadness and we do this through the movement of activating the meridian and the kidney and the bladder is to do with fear and shock. So if you had a big shock at some point in your life you might be storing that fear and the shock within the kidney. So I think Qigong helps you to identify again working with the body, working on specific areas of the body and I think if you have got a problem and you’re able to find help to work on that particular area it’s worth a try isn’t it? It’s worth a try on top of all the other things that you’re doing as part of your healing process.

Robin Daly
Yeah, we’ll say it’s long been lauded for being particularly good for people with cancer and it’s always interested me like, okay, it’s kind of a little main practice in the West really, as you mentioned, people may have heard of Tai Chi, but most people haven’t heard of Qigong, and yes, it is a great resource, so it’s good to tell people about it.

Tracie Storey
Yeah, yes, absolutely.

Robin Daly
OK, so you mentioned earlier on this kind of elemental side of your work, it’s in the title of what you do, so I thought we’d talk about it a little bit more if you don’t mind. So tell me about this. This has come, I take it, in from the east where they need to look at things in that kind of way. Do you want to say how this relates specifically to what you do?

Tracie Storey
Yes, absolutely. And it all ties in really beautifully with the Qigong actually. So there’s many layers to this. So some of the people listening may have heard of the five elements. So in TCM, traditional Chinese medicine, there’s the five elements. So it’s fire, earth, air, water, and wood. So this is a cycle. It’s called a Shen cycle. And I’m just going to explain to people which organs are in each of the elements, because this might be interesting. So fire, we have the heart and the small intestine. And then it goes into earth, which is the stomach and the sleeve. And then we go into air, metal, air, metal with the same element in TCM. That’s the lungs and the large intestine. And then we go into water, which is the kidneys and the bladder. Then we go up to wood, which is the liver and the gall bladder. And then that goes back then into fire. So fire, earth, air, water, and wood. So this is called the Shen cycle. So everything’s feeding into something else. So the fire, when the fire burns out, it turns to ash, goes into the earth. From the earth, we mine for metals, don’t we? We go down into the earth. This is where we find copper. So this is where the metal element comes in. And from this, we go into water because it can contain water. We contain water in the earth, which then feeds the roots of the trees, which is the wood. And then the wood gets chopped out and it creates a fire. So what’s really important within this is to create a balance and a harmony. So it comes back to the harmony aspect mentioned earlier on in the chat. It’s really important to keep things in harmonious order in the body. Because if we have something dominating, so we have our fire dominating, for example, our heart and our small intestine, that means it’s drawing from something else lower down. So for example, that might mean that our kidneys and our bladder are more sedated. They’re not getting the energy they need because the fire is dominating. So in TCM, the key is to have this harmonious pattern, this harmonious cycle. So this is where elemental comes in. And in this, I can say it’s called the Shen cycle. We have within that a co-cycle, which is the negative cycle. Say, for example, the air metal chops down the wood. The water puts the fire out. So too much water will put the fire out. Too much metal will chop down the wood. The roots of the earth will strangle the trees. This is the negative side, if you like, light and shadow of TCM or traditional Chinese medicine and five elements. So again, in Qigong, the reason why we work with the different meridians is we want to help keep the energy flowing in this Shen cycle way and keeping the balance and the harmony. So when we have something dominating, we have to watch out because we don’t want that to continue dominating because then we start to get into a situation of imbalance. And this is why we can have problems with illness, with disease.

Robin Daly
Okay, so I can see, I can appreciate how the practice of achieving learning would be, move people towards balance, but do you also diagnose people if you like as having too much of one element and therefore they do a particular practice for that?

Tracie Storey
Yes, so in the work, there’s like three different ways that I can work with different people. So that’s in the group doing the chigong and also working with sound in a sound meditation way within a group. But when someone comes in for a one-to-one session, what happens is I’ll do a reading using their pulses. So a little bit like acupuncture, if anyone’s ever had acupuncture, which is a great modality. Instead of using needles like one does in acupuncture or an acupuncturist does, I’ll use tuning forks. So what we’ll do is we’ll identify which of the elements via their water award are dominant within that particular person at that particular time. And then we’ll start working on the different meridians on the body using the tuning forks on different points. So this will help me to facilitate a process for them to look after themselves a little bit better to get more balance in their life, because I’ll be able to give a reading due to the reading of their pulses of what’s going on in their body. Then we can go, okay, right, we need to work on activating your air metal a little bit more. Do you find yourself feeling this way? Are you a little bit sad? Are you a little bit depressed? Okay, let’s work on that. Let’s work on boosting that energy up so we can balance these things out. So I will recommend different Shigong moves. I will always recommend Shigong because it helps people to move the energy through, but it’s really nice of you to know what’s going on with their organs as well.

Robin Daly
Heh, heh.

Tracie Storey
So the tuning fork technique is just like acupuncture, but it’s not invasive because it’s vibrational.

Robin Daly
and say, yeah, sort of tuning for Acupuncture and that’s interesting. I haven’t had that. I’ve had Acupuncture quite a few times, but yeah, it’d be interesting to see what that’s like. So the other thing I wanted to ask you a bit, you know, you set out there with your DJ experience of realizing that, well, we respond amazingly to sound, don’t we? I mean, everybody knows this intuitively, you know, you watch a movie, the soundtrack can be one of the biggest parts, and it can completely take you on a journey, just the soundtrack. And so we got this incredible relationship to sound and carefully constructed sound and natural sound, all sorts of things. You went off looking into this, if you like, in detail. Maybe you just want to share a bit about what you found about the human relationship to sound, particularly maybe in the way that you described right at the beginning on a cellular level.

Tracie Storey
Yeah. And I think what’s really important here is what I’ve found, because obviously my background of being a DJ, which is, as you know, digital electronic music. But really, when you want to look at a sound on a cellular vibratory level, you need to be working with acoustic sound, the sound of a guitar, the sound of a cello, the sound of a violin, the sound of a drum, because you have the natural resonance directly from the instrument in front of you or around you. And obviously you can record that and that can be a digital file because we listen to everything on our computers and features and everything these days. So it’s not always about necessarily being in the room with the person playing the guitar. But if you can be exposed to source sound being acoustic, there is more information, vibratory information that travels from the instrument to your body. So I created an album called Elemental Resonance, of course. Of course. Within that, there is layers from track one, which starts at, let’s say, a bass level. It’s more earth based sounds. It’s more skin drum, more deeper resonant sounds, which will appeal to different parts of the body. And I mean, I would just, it’s free, this album’s free on Spotify for anyone who wants to listen to it. But what happens from Journey One or track one, all the way through to track seven, track eight, the sound and the timbre changes because it actually starts to resonate with different parts of the body. There was a good experience or experiment that they, to just lie down and listen to sounds that are resonating with different parts of your body. So for example, I just explained about track one with the deeper earth based, more deeply resonant sounds. Then it finishes on track eight with much more lighter bells, cleaner, twinkly, kind of more thin, lighter sounds, you know. And again, it’s interesting to know that the body is also receiving this information on different levels. I mean, you can feel it in different parts. And so it’s just like being a DJ, really. But when you start to work with the sound in a more kind of like directive way, your body really responds to it too. You start to understand again, your body being an instrument. So I really like to kind of, this is one of my biggest teachings, I think, when I’m speaking to people, to know that you are, and everything is sound as well, listening to us talking on this podcast, it has a resonant frequency to it. The birds in the trees outside, we all like the birds in the trees outside. We don’t necessarily like the sound of a lorry going past our window that sounds, you know, not so resonant. And this is where a cellular level, if we go into science for a moment and look at what’s called cymatics, C-Y-M-A-T-I-C-S, cymatics is the science of sound. If anybody looks on YouTube, you can find it there. This is where it’s the shape of sound through a medium. So you can see that sound travels and creates different shapes in the water, in the sand, anything that will take shape, the sound can, once it’s exposed to that medium, show you different shapes.

Tracie Storey
So there’s certain things that are harmonious and certain things that are different. So we need to be aware of what we’re exposing ourselves to.

Robin Daly
Right, so you’re talking about becoming a much more conscious listener. Yes, absolutely.

Tracie Storey
Absolutely. And again, move towards things that feel resonant for you, and neither way, if you’re living by a very busy road and you start getting serious health problems, it’s like you have to look at this exposure to dissonance down that maybe you’re sensitive to that isn’t really feeling so good. And you might not associate it with the road, but if it’s years and years and years of living next to a busy road, at some point, this is going to have a fact, if you’re sensitive to it.

Robin Daly
Yeah, because in a funny way you actually sort of block those things out then you you become unconscious of them but of course there’s still happening. Yeah. Just the same. Yeah, interesting. Well look, why don’t you tell us a bit about what you do? So you did a workshop at Archon for us, you probably had about 30 or more people there, a lot of people. Do you want to tell us about the different ways in which you work people?

Tracie Storey
Yeah, so there’s three different ways. Two of them are group oriented and one of them is one-to-one. Present. So the cheek-on classes and workshops are something that I teach. I do online classes and I also do in-person ones as well. What we do in person, I like to do them a little bit longer because I talk about some of the things we’ve spoken about today and it’s quite hard to stick that into an hour. So in the summer, I like to do outdoor cheek-on classes in the park and if the weather is nice, well, it’s really good to do things outside. So that’s one group setup that I do. Then I also do group sound harmonisation, they’re called, where this is very good for anyone who has insomnia, anxiety, stress. And we all come together and we do meditation together and then everybody lies down and then I play instruments that I was speaking about before that resonate with different parts of the body. So then if we go on what’s called a sound journey together and people fall asleep, some people find it very relaxing and it’s like DJing but it’s not playing. It’s just a smaller group of people, maybe like 15 people, 20 people or something and everyone’s lying down and you’re exposed to different sounds but they’re vibrational sounds. So they will feel very different to listening to and recording.

Robin Daly
and seeing what he had to be very broad-minded to call it like t-turning but anyway yes a lot different to make you all right

Tracie Storey
And then there’s the one-to-one, so that’s the people who are, and I do those seasonally, so tuning the body to each season, so autumn, winter, summer, and spring, but then I also have clients who are dealing with maybe more serious issues, such as cancer, who are working on something specific, and I do the sound acupuncture, and we work on specific ailments, and I do both in London.

Robin Daly
Great stuff and your website if people want to find out more.

Tracie Storey
Yes, it’s www.elementalresonance.com. And I’ve just sent out to some of the people who came to the Yes2Life conference a 10-minute Qigong video. It’s such a free video. It’s a private link, but if anybody is interested, I would always recommend people come to do Qigong together in the same room because it’s better like that. But if somebody wants to try Qigong and they’re not able to meet in person, then I do have some videos that I’d be happy to share with people.

Robin Daly
Excellent, all right. Well, we’re out of time. Thanks so much Tracy I actually love the energy you bring to your work and It’s been a real pleasure to dig in then find out a bit more about what you do

Tracie Storey
Thank you so much Robin, it’s great to chat to you and it’s really great to be able to share this information with people. I hope people listening have found it helpful and if anyone’s got any questions, please feel free to drop me a line.

Robin Daly
Well, one thing about the Yes To Life show is you get plenty of variety. That was quite an exploration for me and a really interesting one. There’s always something going on in integrated medicine that you don’t know about. Yes To Life is holding a Christmas prize draw this year. It’s live right now. And there are some fabulous prizes, including a star prize that’s just been added of a holiday cottage for up to four people for a whole week by the coast in wonderful West Wales. So a lovely way to support the work of the charity is to join in, buy yourself some tickets and maybe come away with a fabulous prize. To get your tickets, go to the Yes To Life website, that’s yestolife.org.uk Scroll down the homepage until you see a news item for the Christmas prize draw and follow the links. Your support will be enormously appreciated and will help us to deliver more urgently needed services to people with cancer. Thanks for listening today. I shall be back again, same place and time, with another Yes To Life show.